Monday, January 21, 2008

Kafkacast

Today I learned that Comcast customer support is actually being paid to "understand your frustration with the issue."

I was just indoctrinated into the Kafka-esque world of Comcast, who recently, and inexplicably, blocked my access to port 25, through which SMTP connections are made, allowing for email to be sent through a mail client. See, I use Mac Mail to manage my approximately 12 email addresses from which I send email to conduct business. Yes, really ... I have a dozen of 'em. And, correspondingly, about 6 SMTP servers I use to send email through. Suddenly, they were all blocked.

Here's the transcript of my chat with the amiable, but policy-restrained customer service representative. (Notice, by the way, how he uses my name no fewer than 18 times during the chat. Anybody who says my name more than like ... 5 times in a conversation is either highly medicated, or utterly sociopathic. It's like talking to HAL.) Here's how it went down ... stick with it ... it gets twistedly hilarious:

Live Chat

user Will has entered room
analyst Mac has entered room
Mac 21:29:08: Hello Will, Thank you for contacting Comcast Live Chat Support. My name is Mac. Please give me one moment to review your information.
Mac 21:29:53: Hi Will.
Mac 21:30:00: What error message do you get?
Will 18:30:16: can't connect to smtp server
Will 18:30:34: i use mac mail, and i have a bunch of smtp servers that i use to send mail through
Will 18:30:37: normally they connect fine
Will 18:30:42: suddenly, they don't
Will 18:30:53: i'm assuming this is a blocking port 25 issue on your end
Will 18:31:12: so how do i unblock them? i need access to my smtp servers
Mac 21:31:16: Thats not possible.
Mac 21:31:20: Yes you may have to change it to 587 port.
Will 18:31:25: 587 will work?
Mac 21:31:30: Yes.
Will 18:31:35: does it redirect to 25?
Mac 21:32:30: Port 25 is blocked for most users as for security.
Mac 21:32:36: All spam is sent on 25.
Will 18:32:42: ok. will changing it to 587 affect me if i go to another location (e.g. another ISP) and try and connect?
Will 18:33:05: (i work from a laptop, and am always on the move)
Mac 21:33:19: It shouldn't Will.
Mac 21:33:24: You would have to try it.
Will 18:33:36: right
Will 18:33:45: let me try it here real quick
Will 18:34:56: didn't seem to work
Will 18:35:00: though i get a different error now
Will 18:35:20: i'm trying to access the yahoo smtp server
Will 18:35:50: now it says trying to log into this smtp server failed
Will 18:35:55: which is different than not connecting to it
Will 18:36:08: see, i'm not using comcast for my smtp ... just as my pipe
Mac 21:37:13: Ok, Will, they may be blocking 25 and then it wouldn't work.
Will 18:37:40: so, what's my solution here?
Mac 21:38:14: Well Will, comcast doesn't unblock ports for anyone.
Will 18:38:41: yes, but i need to send email through my pop account, mac
Mac 21:39:01: Couldn't you do this on there webpages?
Will 18:39:06: no way
Will 18:39:23: no possible way i could do my job through a web mail client
Mac 21:39:20: I know on Yahoo you can.
Will 18:39:50: oh, i know you *can*, but doing so is incredibly impractical, you know?
Will 18:40:18: i'm a contractor ... i use at least a dozen different email addresses for my work
Mac 21:40:38: I understand Will. The port may have been banned as business was being conducted using Comcast HOME internet which is not allowed
Will 18:41:10: so why is it that all of a sudden they're blocked?
Will 18:41:16: i've been using this for 3+ years now
Will 18:41:31: and this is completely screwing me, btw
Will 18:41:52: i absolutely need a better solution than using webmail
Mac 21:41:55: That could be a possiblity.
Mac 21:42:05: Its mostly for security purposes.
Will 18:42:29: i'm aware of that ... but in this case, it's throwing out the baby with the bathwater
Will 18:42:41: you guys need a provision for trusted users, like myself
Mac 21:43:08: Will, you still wouldn't be allowed to conduct business on the home account
Will 18:43:11: if you guys see (or have reported) spam coming from my IP, i'd understand a desire to block it
Will 18:43:30: wait ... huh?
Mac 21:43:53: You mentioned you conduct most of your business emailing using comcast internet, which is not allowed.
Will 18:44:15: i'm not allowed to conduct business from my home?
Will 18:44:33: how do you guys presume to limit people to business vs. pleasure?
Mac 21:44:56: Not with your home internet service. They can watch activity on the account. We have a seperate business service we offer.
Will 18:45:09: which is what ... more expensive?
Mac 21:45:31: I believe so, I'm not sure of the pricing exactly.
Will 18:45:43: i run a home office, mac. it's not like i'm running a corporation here.
Mac 21:45:46: Either way the port 25 couldn't be unblocked in any circumstance.
Mac 21:46:04: I understand Will, I am simply stating the policies.
Will 18:46:05: i'm a contractor doing business sometimes out of my home, sometimes on clients' sites.
Will 18:46:47: so, if i had a business account, i'd be able to use port 25?
Mac 21:47:34: I believe so yes.
Will 18:48:27: well, i kinda need to know that for sure, mac.
Mac 21:49:03: Will, we dont do the business side. Let me give you a phone number.
Mac 21:49:21: Phone: 1-800-316-1619
Will 18:49:30: is comcast my only option for DSL service at my home?
Mac 21:49:52: I'm not sure Will, we don't offer DSL.
Will 18:50:22: or ... better said, then ... high speed internet
Mac 21:51:14: Will, I'm not familiar with the area, I assume there would be some other providers.
Will 18:51:32: i'm sure to be looking into that at this point
Mac 21:51:49: Great Will, whatever solution works.
Will 18:51:56: i've got no problem with your *personal* service here, mac. just so we're clear.
Will 18:52:14: i'm just flabbergasted that this is how your company conducts business
Will 18:52:54: more than anything else right now, i'm really curious as to why suddenly my smtp was shut down, without so much as a peep of warning or anything.
Mac 21:53:23: However if you want to cancel the internet you will have to call 1800COMCAST
Will 18:53:30: i consider myself lucky i happen to have enough technical savvy to any idea what was going on
Mac 21:54:35: Well Will, in your contract with us it does state that we reserve the right to block ports at anytime we find suitable.
Mac 21:54:42: It is a security issue.
Will 18:55:14: yes, but there hasn't been a security breach to my knowledge
Will 18:55:39: and blocking ports isn't just an arbitrary thing to do ... it affects people's ability to conduct business, mac.
Will 18:56:05: or forget business for a second ... to use the internet as it is supposed to be used
Mac 21:56:43: Will, you can use the internet without using port 25.
Will 18:57:03: yes, but i can't use my mail client, mac
Will 18:57:22: so what you're saying is that if i'm using comcast home internet service, i can't use a mail client
Mac 21:58:06: You can use it on the website as I stated.
Will 18:58:25: sorry, but that's not helpful
Will 18:58:55: is there some kind of analysis that i could see that shows why it was warranted or deemed necessary to shut down my ports?
Mac 21:59:29: Will, this is a non-negotiable decision
Will 19:00:52: this is a load of crap, mac.
Mac 22:01:24: Well I'm sorry you feel that way Will.
Will 19:01:44: please note to your superiors that you should absolutely have a port access provision for trusted users
Will 19:02:05: i totally understand why port 25s are blocked ... but not in this case
Mac 22:02:14: I will definitely pass the chat along to them.
Will 19:03:47: thanks mac
Mac 22:03:59: Not a problem Will.
Will 19:04:02: i appreciate your answering my questions ...
Will 19:04:25: ... and sad that this is such a pitifully lame situation
Mac 22:04:24: Thats what I am here for Will, I understand your frustration with the issue.
Mac 22:04:49: http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18990
You will have to fill out the form provided on this page to have the email unblocked.
Mac 22:05:02: You can try the network support team here.
Mac 22:05:11: Just leave a detailed message and a phone number.
Mac 22:05:19: Its basically worth a shot I guess.
Will 19:06:40: so that form is to request unblocking a port 25?
Mac 22:07:33: Not exactly, but it is the closest thing.
Will 19:07:45: right ... i hear ya
Mac 22:08:20: Is there anything else i can help you with?
Will 19:09:09: unless you've got a button on your keyboard that says "unblock Will's port 25", i guess not.
Will 19:09:16: :-)
Mac 22:09:34: Sorry just out of service at the moment!
Mac 22:09:35: wink
Mac 22:10:07: Answers to many Frequently Asked Questions regarding Comcast High Speed Internet service can be found at: http:\faq.comcast.net/faq/ You may want to bookmark this site for future reference. Thank you for contacting Comcast. We appreciate you as a customer. Good bye.
Mac 22:10:11: Analyst has closed chat and left the room




Sigh. Welcome to Kafkacast, where You're Our Bitch (tm).

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Big companies like that only understand one thing: as long as you 're still their customer, they're not doing anything wrong. Until you (and a boat load of other customers) leave them for the competition, they'll continue to do what they're doing.

John Mosbaugh said...

that's awesome... yea, it does sound like Hal. We feel your pain Will, we really do.